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Friederike
Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 49
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:55 pm Post subject: Asonor- a wonderful nasal spray to improve breathing & s |
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Maybe only available in Australia- i don't know, it's made in Denmark but this product might be as good as a Cpap. Tried it out, nose is wonderfully moist slept extremely well and could BREATHE, no mucus no itching no nothing.
http://www.asonor.com.au/
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Friederike
Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 49
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:08 pm Post subject: Also available in the US |
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Friederike
Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 49
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:40 pm Post subject: What it contains |
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| polysorbate 80, glycerol 85%,sodium chloride, edetatesodium, purified water, potassium sorbate 0.15% |
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Friederike
Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 49
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:48 pm Post subject: information about Edetatesodium here |
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Here's some inormation about an ingredient in this spray, sounds promising!
I saw negative sites about it on the net as well, but they mainly relate to it's ability to clear mercury from the system. That's not what we want, we want working arteries in the nose and that's what it does
http://www.arteryhealthinstitute.com/?gclid=CNfZwMf_9pwCFZYtpAodLwpTbg |
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BaileyLush

Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 178 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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I have a really bad sore throat evernight. I wonder if this could help that? What about the sorbate's in it? they are presrvatives I think. But if it helps, who cares:D I would love to sleep 8 hours again. I hav fragmeted dreams about it haha. _________________ Don't substitute my personal advice for table sugar... Or for that of a qualified medical proffesionals:) |
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007
Joined: 14 Apr 2007 Posts: 401
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Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Someone please post if they find this available in other countries for the benefit of the rest of us (USA for me). _________________ My views and thoughts only,
Although I have personal experiences, I am not qualified. |
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Friederike
Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 49
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:22 am Post subject: Sorbate- what is it? |
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Baileylush you are partially right, the potassium sorbate is a preservative, but had no negative effects at all for me. The Polysorbate is obviously one of the bulk ingredients in this spray, it is an emulsifier, made possily from Sorbitol an Alcohol sugar like Xylitol and Glycerine (glycerol) all alcohol sugars are very good for the mucosa as they humidify and draw large amounts of moisture. I quote from wikipedia:
Polysorbate 80 (commercially also known as Tween 80, a registered trademark of ICI Americas, Inc.)[2] is a nonionic surfactant and emulsifier derived from polyethoxylated sorbitan and oleic acid, and is often used in foods. Polysorbate 80 is a viscous, water-soluble yellow liquid. The hydrophilic groups in this compound are polyethers also known as polyoxyethylene groups which are polymers of ethylene oxide. In the nomenclature of polysorbates, the numeric designation following polysorbate refers to the lipophilic group, in this case the oleic acid (see polysorbate for more detail).
Polysorbate 80 is often used in ice cream to prevent milk proteins from completely coating the fat droplets. This allows them to join together in chains and nets, to hold air in the mixture, and provide a firmer texture, holding its shape as the ice cream melt |
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canada110
Joined: 22 Feb 2007 Posts: 754
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Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| anyone find this is north america yet or has anyone else tried it..i mean sounds great |
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leogeo
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 233
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leogeo
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 233
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:43 am Post subject: Glycerin |
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Frederike,
I was wondering since Glycerin coats the membranes just it prevent regeneration? I understand that Glycerin when applied to the teeth prevents it from remineralizing? The question can be applied to oils as well such as Ponaris. Can coating the mucosa be bad?
Thanks _________________ I am not a qualified medical professional. These are my personal views only. |
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BaileyLush

Joined: 31 Jul 2009 Posts: 178 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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I am curious about glycerin now 2. Hence my other thread. But that is a good question. I like the way it feels, but don't know if it is the best long term soultion. _________________ Don't substitute my personal advice for table sugar... Or for that of a qualified medical proffesionals:) |
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erikavs
Joined: 22 Jan 2008 Posts: 205 Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:03 am Post subject: xylitol etc |
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I have tried oils - ponaris and other things - and they draw too much mucus (as well as moisture) but the mucus of course just sits there and does not drain as it should, due to the ENS. I recently thought Xylitol was the answer, but the same thing has been happening - globs of sugary mucus just get stuck - yes it is moist but as i have implants, it is too moist and globby, blocking my breathing. I cannot remove the globs!!! I end up having to use regular saline to cleanse the xylitol globs from my sinuses...sigh. Saline can get so drying But this is not a good alternative.
I have one implant that is great, in my turbinate, and the xylitol works well on that side. But my bothersome side is with my implant in the septum, and it traps every last glob or molecule in the narrow space .... sadness, if only my turb was not too dead for an implant on that side.
So I recommend Xylitol if you are VERY dry and don't feel blocked by mucus globs as much as you are bothered by the dryness and emptyness. We are all at different points on the scale of ENS. |
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Friederike
Joined: 26 Jan 2009 Posts: 49
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:04 pm Post subject: Glycerin actually helps cell regeneration |
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I have posted an article in the moisturizer section about the beneficial things glycerin does. It helps cells reach maturity faster and activates an array of vey beneficial enzymes within the cell. It might even help restore the cilia and not only has imediate moisturizing benefits but initiate longterm positive changes in the mucosa. You can mix it with water and/or oil and I even mix it with xylitol and water or saline water as it is an emulsifier, it combines oil and water. I'm a fan!
erica, I found the same to be true with xylitol, I can only have tiny amounts of it, it is irritating otherwise and now I only use it as a spray mixed with water and Glycerine.
Asonor does not contain any xylitol at all. The longer I use this product the more I like Asonor. I used to be afraid of bed time because I had most difficulties with my nose at that time. But believe it or not, NOW I am looking forward to it because it means I can put Asonor in my nose, I can breathe extremely well and sleep like a baby. I use the glycerine/ water /xylitol spray during daytime only. I never thought that my condition would ever improve again after so many years, but I feel that I am close to being healed. I will never be like before but once I can be happy now. |
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TE Forum Founder

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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | I never thought that my condition would ever improve again after so many years, but I feel that I am close to being healed. I will never be like before but once I can be happy now. |
That's very encouraging Friederike. Thanks for sharing.
I think that I will order some Asonor and give it a shot. |
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007
Joined: 14 Apr 2007 Posts: 401
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Te - let me know how it goes. I am on he verge of ordering as well. Leo is also trying it and says its great. _________________ My views and thoughts only,
Although I have personal experiences, I am not qualified. |
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leogeo
Joined: 04 Jan 2009 Posts: 233
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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 3:45 pm Post subject: moisturizers |
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In regards to the moisturizers. I have tried the majority of them. From the oils ponaris, sesame, olive, seabuckthorn. For me personally I never liked the oils because they never felt natural. The best of the oils is Ponaris imo. I have tried ayr and hylamist and did not like any of those. I use to think that siccalix was the best of the bunch and it is still an excellent product. But this Asonor is in a different league in my opinion. I just ordered 6 more. Thanks Fredericke as it has made a difference. Great find! _________________ I am not a qualified medical professional. These are my personal views only.
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TE Forum Founder

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Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2009 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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That's very good news Leogeo. I'm happy for you.
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007
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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Im going to order some. _________________ My views and thoughts only,
Although I have personal experiences, I am not qualified. |
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